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> <channel><title>Comments on: PR&#8217;s Branding Crisis</title> <atom:link href="http://bub.blicio.us/prs-branding-crisis/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://bub.blicio.us/prs-branding-crisis/</link> <description>Covering the social economy driving the new Web</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:04:27 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: PR’s Branding Crisis &#124; Kicking Sand</title><link>http://bub.blicio.us/prs-branding-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-91102</link> <dc:creator>PR’s Branding Crisis &#124; Kicking Sand</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 22:25:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bub.blicio.us/?p=111111126#comment-91102</guid> <description>[...] article first appeared on Bub.blicio.us on August 13th, 2008. Since that time I’ve heard a tremendous amount of feedback from fellow PR [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] article first appeared on Bub.blicio.us on August 13th, 2008. Since that time I’ve heard a tremendous amount of feedback from fellow PR [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PR’s Branding Crisis &#8212; Kicking Sand</title><link>http://bub.blicio.us/prs-branding-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-76451</link> <dc:creator>PR’s Branding Crisis &#8212; Kicking Sand</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:49:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bub.blicio.us/?p=111111126#comment-76451</guid> <description>[...] article first appeared on Bub.blicio.us on August 13th, 2008. Since that time I&#8217;ve heard a tremendous amount of feedback from fellow [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] article first appeared on Bub.blicio.us on August 13th, 2008. Since that time I&#8217;ve heard a tremendous amount of feedback from fellow [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Is PR Dead? &#171; PR Research</title><link>http://bub.blicio.us/prs-branding-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-75411</link> <dc:creator>Is PR Dead? &#171; PR Research</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:42:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bub.blicio.us/?p=111111126#comment-75411</guid> <description>[...] stuff like providing strategic advice to companies, issues management, being pro-active, etc. More here and [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] stuff like providing strategic advice to companies, issues management, being pro-active, etc. More here and [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Josh Morgan</title><link>http://bub.blicio.us/prs-branding-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-75355</link> <dc:creator>Josh Morgan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:17:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bub.blicio.us/?p=111111126#comment-75355</guid> <description>The challenge is creating an equivalent of the &quot;thud factor.&quot;  The thud in question being the sound a thick book of press coverage makes when dropped on the desk of your client, and often more importantly your client contacts boss.A shift from media-centric to customer-centric is happening.  This should still fall under the description of public relations but falls outside the business perception of PR as mostly media-centric.Customers create content, and customers influence others, a big part of our job is trying to help companies talk with their customers as opposed to at their customers.One other issue, that I&#039;ve touched on before is that since so much of what is being done now in our field involves content creation on the fly on behalf of clients, the traditional big agency model of a few senior people that create and junior people that distribute information can&#039;t work for this new model.  We&#039;ve all seen what happens when people without sufficient background try and speak on behalf of a company. It doesn&#039;t end well.The good news is that the change is happening.  The other good news is that there is still a need for the tried and true tactics.We&#039;ve got new tactics to use to help our clients, and some new strategies. But our end game is the same. Help companies sell more widgets/ideas etc.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The challenge is creating an equivalent of the &#8220;thud factor.&#8221;  The thud in question being the sound a thick book of press coverage makes when dropped on the desk of your client, and often more importantly your client contacts boss.</p><p>A shift from media-centric to customer-centric is happening.  This should still fall under the description of public relations but falls outside the business perception of PR as mostly media-centric.</p><p>Customers create content, and customers influence others, a big part of our job is trying to help companies talk with their customers as opposed to at their customers.</p><p>One other issue, that I&#8217;ve touched on before is that since so much of what is being done now in our field involves content creation on the fly on behalf of clients, the traditional big agency model of a few senior people that create and junior people that distribute information can&#8217;t work for this new model.  We&#8217;ve all seen what happens when people without sufficient background try and speak on behalf of a company. It doesn&#8217;t end well.</p><p>The good news is that the change is happening.  The other good news is that there is still a need for the tried and true tactics.</p><p>We&#8217;ve got new tactics to use to help our clients, and some new strategies. But our end game is the same. Help companies sell more widgets/ideas etc.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: nicole</title><link>http://bub.blicio.us/prs-branding-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-75341</link> <dc:creator>nicole</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:22:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bub.blicio.us/?p=111111126#comment-75341</guid> <description>Wow. I am overwhelmed by the response all around. I knew there were others out there like me: passionate about this industry, desiring a higher respect for those of us driving integrity throughout practice. It’s encouraging to hear so many thought leaders speak out and echo the same sentiments.  I greatly appreciate all those that read this thought piece and especially those that responded, sharing their own experiences and opinions.Hayk: You are 100% spot on when you say young start-ups got for new means.  The younger generation of entrepreneurs learned from their predecessors. They’re more aware that what builds business in the long run is customer loyalty, not a splash in the pan media relations purge. Which, by the way, if you’re a SV media darling is a slam dunk.  Reporters complain about vaporware but they fall victim to it themselves, buying into pre-hype, mesmerized by impressive VC firms and marquee exec names. But I digress…The problem with money-paying businesses sticking to the old model is that the client ends up frustrated with results because it’s not producing the traction they “think” it’s going to, and agencies (typically) end up equally frustrated since they knew it was going to turn out that way anyway but were likely vetoed on a more holistic approach. That’s why the need for a new level of tolerance and understanding during this category shift is beneficial.Al: I think you and I are going to have a lot to bounce off each other.  ?Kevin: What do you recommend, per Andrew’s question? What’s it going to take?Jackie: Thank you, as always. I plan to examine the dynamic between “marketing firms” like yours and what it means in the coming years for PR firms bottom lines.Julie: You’re one of the best in the biz. I’d love to tackle this monster with you.The one and only Chris Lynn:  I  &lt;3 you too.  And in respect of your no bullshit tone: blasting pitches is crap. It’s a filler for an activity sheet.  Getting on the phone, offering substance, building relationships, that’s what adds value.  Mark is dead on in the mashable post.  We are connectors and master connectors (and strategists) at that.There is definitely a need for new metrics.  The social media category is rapidly innovation on this behalf but if your execs just can’t grok the big picture of all the moving parts it can still be frustrating to explain. I look forward to hearing more from you as you educate your clients on this topic.  ?Paul: You make a lot of good points and demonstrate quite clearly what I’m referring to. As someone who is not involved in the industry it’s hard to grasp the full value PR adds.  That is the PR industry’s fault. We have not done a good job of communicating the many ways we help you.You may be able to write your own press releases but let me ask you this: Do you know which wire service is most effective? Do you know what the optimal release time is?  Do you know the process in which to release to bloggers (give them something extra and special no one else gets, btw,) when to release to which press?  Do you know what “coverage” counts and what doesn’t and in what tone to follow-up with reporters to show them how your business is affecting the broader landscape? To you coordinate SEM practices and also push across all your distribution channels?  I don’t mean to single you out with questions but most people don’t realize that behind PR is an immense amount of psychology and art, when done right.It involves understanding human behavior, knowing the boundaries and being able to spot mutually beneficial (and altruistic) opportunities. At least it should be.  I think we can get there.  From the people I heard from today – all leaders in the PR field – we’ve got a good base to educate the current and train the new.PR people often act as a reality check for their executives who are trapped in the box of their office, living and breathing their operating plan.  Executives lose sight of what the big picture story is pretty quickly.  Often what they think is going to be important (which it is in the sales cycle) is going to matter to press.  But it often doesn’t. Press want the what’s next; The, what’s-changing-the-market or putting Google-out-of-business.  Customers just want to know how you’re going to help them.Everyone, thanks again for your input.  I look forward to much more.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I am overwhelmed by the response all around. I knew there were others out there like me: passionate about this industry, desiring a higher respect for those of us driving integrity throughout practice. It’s encouraging to hear so many thought leaders speak out and echo the same sentiments.  I greatly appreciate all those that read this thought piece and especially those that responded, sharing their own experiences and opinions.</p><p>Hayk: You are 100% spot on when you say young start-ups got for new means.  The younger generation of entrepreneurs learned from their predecessors. They’re more aware that what builds business in the long run is customer loyalty, not a splash in the pan media relations purge. Which, by the way, if you’re a SV media darling is a slam dunk.  Reporters complain about vaporware but they fall victim to it themselves, buying into pre-hype, mesmerized by impressive VC firms and marquee exec names. But I digress…</p><p>The problem with money-paying businesses sticking to the old model is that the client ends up frustrated with results because it’s not producing the traction they “think” it’s going to, and agencies (typically) end up equally frustrated since they knew it was going to turn out that way anyway but were likely vetoed on a more holistic approach. That’s why the need for a new level of tolerance and understanding during this category shift is beneficial.</p><p>Al: I think you and I are going to have a lot to bounce off each other.  ?</p><p>Kevin: What do you recommend, per Andrew’s question? What’s it going to take?</p><p>Jackie: Thank you, as always. I plan to examine the dynamic between “marketing firms” like yours and what it means in the coming years for PR firms bottom lines.</p><p>Julie: You’re one of the best in the biz. I’d love to tackle this monster with you.</p><p>The one and only Chris Lynn:  I  &lt;3 you too.  And in respect of your no bullshit tone: blasting pitches is crap. It’s a filler for an activity sheet.  Getting on the phone, offering substance, building relationships, that’s what adds value.  Mark is dead on in the mashable post.  We are connectors and master connectors (and strategists) at that.</p><p>There is definitely a need for new metrics.  The social media category is rapidly innovation on this behalf but if your execs just can’t grok the big picture of all the moving parts it can still be frustrating to explain. I look forward to hearing more from you as you educate your clients on this topic.  ?</p><p>Paul: You make a lot of good points and demonstrate quite clearly what I’m referring to. As someone who is not involved in the industry it’s hard to grasp the full value PR adds.  That is the PR industry’s fault. We have not done a good job of communicating the many ways we help you.</p><p>You may be able to write your own press releases but let me ask you this: Do you know which wire service is most effective? Do you know what the optimal release time is?  Do you know the process in which to release to bloggers (give them something extra and special no one else gets, btw,) when to release to which press?  Do you know what “coverage” counts and what doesn’t and in what tone to follow-up with reporters to show them how your business is affecting the broader landscape? To you coordinate SEM practices and also push across all your distribution channels?  I don’t mean to single you out with questions but most people don’t realize that behind PR is an immense amount of psychology and art, when done right.</p><p>It involves understanding human behavior, knowing the boundaries and being able to spot mutually beneficial (and altruistic) opportunities. At least it should be.  I think we can get there.  From the people I heard from today – all leaders in the PR field – we’ve got a good base to educate the current and train the new.</p><p>PR people often act as a reality check for their executives who are trapped in the box of their office, living and breathing their operating plan.  Executives lose sight of what the big picture story is pretty quickly.  Often what they think is going to be important (which it is in the sales cycle) is going to matter to press.  But it often doesn’t. Press want the what’s next; The, what’s-changing-the-market or putting Google-out-of-business.  Customers just want to know how you’re going to help them.</p><p>Everyone, thanks again for your input.  I look forward to much more.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cliff Allen</title><link>http://bub.blicio.us/prs-branding-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-75339</link> <dc:creator>Cliff Allen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 06:58:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bub.blicio.us/?p=111111126#comment-75339</guid> <description>Excellent review of what PR is and what it could be -- if executives would allow it.When I had an advertising and PR firm in the 1990s we had many of the same pressures that PR people face today. Clients wanted press releases and ink in the best publications. And, of course, lots of sales inquiries.We explained to clients how the trust and relationship between a publication and its readers affects a  reporter&#039;s view of PR people.Many reporters and editors rely on PR people who actually understand the industry that the publication covers. Why? The reputation of the publication and the reporters is on the line with everything they write, so they naturally rely more on PR people they know and trust.  In other words, where there is an actual relationship.Since I had been a reporter and columnist, I could use actual examples of how PR people had influenced articles I had written.  Once they understood the value of the long-term relationship between a journalist and a PR person, clients were appreciative of what our PR team could do for them.Sending press releases to a reporter or blogger who you don&#039;t know has about the same chance of success as a telemarketer making cold calls.And, of course, PR is much more than media relations.  It&#039;s up to PR people to educate executives on how the many aspects of PR actually helps a company build the relationships needed for success.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent review of what PR is and what it could be &#8212; if executives would allow it.</p><p>When I had an advertising and PR firm in the 1990s we had many of the same pressures that PR people face today. Clients wanted press releases and ink in the best publications. And, of course, lots of sales inquiries.</p><p>We explained to clients how the trust and relationship between a publication and its readers affects a  reporter&#8217;s view of PR people.</p><p>Many reporters and editors rely on PR people who actually understand the industry that the publication covers. Why? The reputation of the publication and the reporters is on the line with everything they write, so they naturally rely more on PR people they know and trust.  In other words, where there is an actual relationship.</p><p>Since I had been a reporter and columnist, I could use actual examples of how PR people had influenced articles I had written.  Once they understood the value of the long-term relationship between a journalist and a PR person, clients were appreciative of what our PR team could do for them.</p><p>Sending press releases to a reporter or blogger who you don&#8217;t know has about the same chance of success as a telemarketer making cold calls.</p><p>And, of course, PR is much more than media relations.  It&#8217;s up to PR people to educate executives on how the many aspects of PR actually helps a company build the relationships needed for success.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul Kim</title><link>http://bub.blicio.us/prs-branding-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-75338</link> <dc:creator>Paul Kim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:14:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bub.blicio.us/?p=111111126#comment-75338</guid> <description>Nicole,
Interesting post. I will preface my response by saying that I&#039;m in no way an expert in the field and may be naive/uninformed in my observation. That said, I find myself questioning the definition of &quot;PR&quot; today and how it fits into my own organization. After some thought, I think the role/image of PR is in a transitory state; it&#039;s not clear what the end state will be but it is clear that it won&#039;t stay the same. Here is my $0.02:Traditional PR held some obvious value propositions whether it be providing &quot;media relations&quot; or simply representing the face of a company. But the advent of the internet, broadband ubiquity, social networking, and all these disruptive forces, have collectively disintermediated some of these traditional roles. For example, I recently found that I could write my own press releases if I knew of a suitable wire service. During the my dot-com bubble days in Silicon Valley, I would never have thought of that possibility. But this doesn&#039;t mean PR is no longer necessary. Why? Because I can&#039;t spend all my time writing press releases due to the millions of  other responsibilities that already take up too much of my time. What it does mean, however, is that PR roles/images will change but the landing will likely be a soft one. Here&#039;s some perspective: the industry possibly hardest hit by the recent wave of technology innovation/adoption is the music/record industry, which faces a far more lamentable future than any media profession. I think PR firms are in nowhere near as bad a shape as the record labels.So what about a more comparable analogy? Try business development, which, today has taken the form of sales or strategic alliances/partnerships. I think PR will go through a similar marketing shuffle and will either recast itself as an extension of marketing or rebrand itself as an entirely new industry. Either way, it&#039;s evolving into something else but I don&#039;t think it will ever  go the way extinction.
pk</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole,<br
/> Interesting post. I will preface my response by saying that I&#8217;m in no way an expert in the field and may be naive/uninformed in my observation. That said, I find myself questioning the definition of &#8220;PR&#8221; today and how it fits into my own organization. After some thought, I think the role/image of PR is in a transitory state; it&#8217;s not clear what the end state will be but it is clear that it won&#8217;t stay the same. Here is my $0.02:</p><p>Traditional PR held some obvious value propositions whether it be providing &#8220;media relations&#8221; or simply representing the face of a company. But the advent of the internet, broadband ubiquity, social networking, and all these disruptive forces, have collectively disintermediated some of these traditional roles. For example, I recently found that I could write my own press releases if I knew of a suitable wire service. During the my dot-com bubble days in Silicon Valley, I would never have thought of that possibility. But this doesn&#8217;t mean PR is no longer necessary. Why? Because I can&#8217;t spend all my time writing press releases due to the millions of  other responsibilities that already take up too much of my time. What it does mean, however, is that PR roles/images will change but the landing will likely be a soft one. Here&#8217;s some perspective: the industry possibly hardest hit by the recent wave of technology innovation/adoption is the music/record industry, which faces a far more lamentable future than any media profession. I think PR firms are in nowhere near as bad a shape as the record labels.</p><p>So what about a more comparable analogy? Try business development, which, today has taken the form of sales or strategic alliances/partnerships. I think PR will go through a similar marketing shuffle and will either recast itself as an extension of marketing or rebrand itself as an entirely new industry. Either way, it&#8217;s evolving into something else but I don&#8217;t think it will ever  go the way extinction.<br
/> pk</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Lynn</title><link>http://bub.blicio.us/prs-branding-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-75336</link> <dc:creator>Chris Lynn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:26:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://bub.blicio.us/?p=111111126#comment-75336</guid> <description>Nicole: First off, thanks for the link love.Very well written piece.  You hit on some of the themes that have been bubbling in my head for quite some time.The lines between marketing, PR and media are blurring.  No longer can we just blast out pitches and pray they get picked up.  We have to go back to the heart of PR--public relations, not press relations.What is the public? Well, in traditional PR, we often reach out to real-world assoications.  Online, we should be participating in online communities, whether they are social networks, forums, blogs, twitter, etc.  To become members of these communities, we have to dress, talk and walk like them--that means listen and create content that interests them.  If that content gets picked up, gravy!The problem is, so many people want to see direct return from their PR budget.  When we move to social media, our goals have to change.  Raising brand awareness, decreasing customer service calls, or even driving traffic to a site can be tracked for ROI.  Counting number of blog hits as though they are news clippings is old school, and should be forgotten.Best,ChrisBTW, I &lt;3 u!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole: First off, thanks for the link love.</p><p>Very well written piece.  You hit on some of the themes that have been bubbling in my head for quite some time.</p><p>The lines between marketing, PR and media are blurring.  No longer can we just blast out pitches and pray they get picked up.  We have to go back to the heart of PR&#8211;public relations, not press relations.</p><p>What is the public? Well, in traditional PR, we often reach out to real-world assoications.  Online, we should be participating in online communities, whether they are social networks, forums, blogs, twitter, etc.  To become members of these communities, we have to dress, talk and walk like them&#8211;that means listen and create content that interests them.  If that content gets picked up, gravy!</p><p>The problem is, so many people want to see direct return from their PR budget.  When we move to social media, our goals have to change.  Raising brand awareness, decreasing customer service calls, or even driving traffic to a site can be tracked for ROI.  Counting number of blog hits as though they are news clippings is old school, and should be forgotten.</p><p>Best,</p><p>Chris</p><p>BTW, I &lt;3 u!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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